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Interview With CJ

(4/15/02)

 

Tell us a little bit about how you see yourself? 
After years of people telling me I should be a model, I tried it. I got a very conservative hair cut and learned they wanted "cookie cutter models". Everyone had to look alike and not stand out at all. I couldn't blend in. I don't consider myself what I call "wallpaper people". A very dear friend told me "It's all about who you know and the mood they're in!" Very true. There are a million good looking guys out there. You have to know the right people and be prepared.

 

What was your reaction to see your pictures published? 
It's a great feeling when I see myself on a book cover or in a magazine. To me, it means I've succeeded in what I set out to do. In a career that so few people do. I knew I could do it but couldn't get my foot in the door. It took me almost 10 years to get on my first cover. I can't describe to you how that felt. Sort of like walking on the moon for me.

 

Did your family support you or give you a hard time? 
My family and friends don't know what to make of me. My parents said to me years ago "Can't you just be normal?" Translation = 9 to 5 job, 2.3 kids, white picket fence and short hair! The last comment from my father was "Just don't embarrass us!" My Mother doesn't know about the web-site or most of the covers.  My 89 year old Grandmother called me the other day after she saw my Plain Dealer article's photo where I was been caressed by young women without my shirt on. She said in a whisper "Oh honey, you're going to go to jail! Those girls were so YOUNG!" She made me promise never to pose like that again. Fingers crossed. 

My brother thinks it's cool when he sees me on TV and wants me to mention him whenever I can.  A lot of my friends couldn't deal with all the "celebrity" stuff and abandoned me. Anyway, I try not to tell people about any of this. When I got back from NYC after doing my first cover, my dearest friend from first grade sent me a balloon bouquet that said "Congratulations!" She got it! I have never been so touched it my life. I was so choked up when I called to thank her I couldn't even talk.

 

What about nudity? Do you feel comfortable posing nude? 
Nudity is no big deal if it's done well and I don't look fat. I've posed that way before, but I didn't sign a release for the pix. I was in PLAYGIRL in 1990 and have been asked back no less than 3 times in a centerfold capacity. For some reason, the editorial staff always changed before I did my shoot and it was cancelled.

Once they fired my photographer 2 weeks before my shoot! I'd consider doing it again, but they don't pay as much as people think. Nothing compared to Playboy. I recently did a shoot wearing only a sword in front of me. I told the photographer to let me know if he could see "anything" and NOT to shoot if he did. When I saw the contact sheets, I had to laugh. You could see EVERYTHING in almost every frame. The photographer said "Did you really think you were going to get all that behind the sword?!" LOL

 

And I'm still waiting to see those pics remember? LOL.  Next question, what do you balance your internal self and your work as a model, which focuses on your external looks? 
I've found out that I scare the hell out of a lot of people. I don't get it. I have to think it's the hair. Freaks everybody out. On the inside I'm still the 13 year old fat kid with glasses with tape on the sides. The outside, well I'm still a work in progress. When people finally get to know me they say "You're really much nicer than I'd thought you'd be... and funny too!" I had a book publisher apologize to me at last year's convention. She said she was afraid to speak to me and was surprised I was so nice to her. Go figure.

 

Well, I can tell everyone that you are one of the nicest guys I've met -- and you definitely have charisma!  So how do you market yourself? Do you have an agent? 
I don't have an agent or an agency working on my behalf. It would be easier if I did. I've learned from all my years in the business YOU do most of the work yourself. I briefly had an agent in NYC referred to me by another cover model. I found out he was HATED by just about every photographer/agency in the city. Not living in New York doesn't help either. Although, I have been EARLY for every cover shoot I've done in NYC. Even  the photographer couldn't believe it because the models who live in the city are never on time.

 
How do you see the effect of the Internet on modeling? 
Having a website has been the greatest blessing. I don't know how I lived without one. I am reaching people all over the world. Waiting for the right person to call/e-mail!
 

 
As your webmaster, I can vouch for that!  Since I've known you, you've had a lot of media attention. I'm sure that's an asset to any author or publisher.
 I'm puzzled why I haven't heard from more publishers. I can and do generate A LOT of press coverage for the authors on whose covers I have appeared. I mean A LOT. I have a friend in advertising who said he's never seen anything like me. He says I've gotten millions of dollars worth of press coverage.  That smells like $$$$ to me. I guess maybe they aren't interested in making $$$$, but I could be wrong.

 

You definitely have the drive to get publicity and work!  Have you had any funny or embarrassing experiences while doing a job or trying to get one? 
As I was leaving the photo studio looking after my first shoot, a female cab driver came over to me and said "Hey! You look like one of those guys from a romance novels!" After ten years of struggling I could say " I AM one of those guys!!!" Her timing was perfect and it was the perfect end to a perfect day.

As I was face to face with a very beautiful and buxom model, both of us in bathing suits for another cover I thought I'd make small talk. What's your name I asked. "Delores" I freaked. I thought it was some kind of sick joke from God. "Delores" is my Mother's name!!!!

While I was walking down the street after another shoot with my suitcase in tow, with my hair down and blowing and all. I saw a woman staring at me as she walked right into the path of a man on a bike. She knocked him off the bike. It was hilarious.

 

After I stopped laughing I asked:  What was the best and most difficult time in your career so far? 
Just when I think it's "over" I get a phone call. It's very strange. I can't say there has been any difficult times, but when my father was dying of cancer things got a little out of control. There's a movie of the week there. I consider my life as an adventure. It's been great. Even when things have gone bad, I've learned from the experience. You have to have the valleys to appreciate the peaks and I DO!

 
What are your priorities at the moment? 
I want to put out the best possible product. Be it web-site, covers, merchandising. I want to be the guy who other guys want to copy for their web-site. Working very hard on all that now. I have been blessed with having some very talented and competent people surrounding and supporting me now.

 
After staring at your pictures every night for the past five months, I have to ask how do you keep yourself in shape? Any diet and fitness tips you can pass on to our readers? 
My fitness routine would kill most people. 6 days a week, several hours a day. Contrary to popular belief, I can't eat whatever I want. That's called the unfairness of life. I have to watch what I eat. I don't do steroids or even supplements. I can't afford either. I have nothing against them. You just have to be careful. Keeping a 30 inch waist ain't a piece of cake.... literally!

 
Unless it's birthday cake if I recall. LOL.  What advice would you share with a model who is just beginning a career?
Follow your dreams. I am living proof that dreams DO come true. Always be prepared. You have to develop a very thick skin too. Most people can't take the rejection, which is a very big part of the business. Don't take it too personally. Sometimes the photographer's best friend got the job you really wanted.

Thanks CJ!

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